I think it is, but we have to bring something to the table. That means credibility and that means experience with North Korea.
I agree also with the second-track type of approach, but it's really hard to talk to so-called ordinary North Korean citizens. We have to try it all. No country has any monopoly on wisdom. Certainly the Chinese and the Americans don't. I think we can contribute to a rational, long-term, strategic type of dialogue.