We had the minister here just the other day, and he mentioned on article 21 that he would prefer to see it gone and work towards that, with the caveat that we'd be able to do joint operations.
One of the things that he was wanting to see, and I think we'd all like to see, is to encourage the other countries, particularly the United States, to join us on the ban of these horrific munitions. Would you concur with that?