My view is that institutes like the Permanent Joint Board on Defence and the International Joint Commission, which are based on the binational principle, where we attend in the same numbers and are seen as equals, work best for a country such as Canada in dealing with the United States, where, as I pointed out, the relationship is asymmetrical.
For the binational approach, probably the pinnacle of that is what we have at NORAD, where the only way, as you know from when you've gone to Cheyenne Mountain, is the patch on the shoulder, the flag patch.... Otherwise, you're just seamlessly integrated for a common effort and common goals.