Yes, I agree, absolutely, that one of Russia's clear geopolitical goals is to dismantle NATO as well as the European Union and to get American troops and North American troops out of Europe. So, yes, we're beginning to understand that Russia's assault on the west is not just military; it's also in the world of cyber, as one previous committee member mentioned, as well as in the information space. If you want to keep NATO together, if you care about it, and if it's an important institution for your security, then adding some of these other spheres to the concept of what defence means would be, yes, very important and very central, I think.
