One of our problems as a democratic liberal democracy is we don't always have the tools to fight that propaganda machine in any way. An analysis of what's going on is important in order for us to have the right tools to do it.
Your husband was very clear that international presence, international persistence and naming is important. Those have been themes he's had.
This question may be to Professor Cotler.
Irwin, I had forgotten I had met Vladimir until you told us about the meeting in 2011. What should Canada be doing in terms of that? We now have Sergei Lavrov saying he will downgrade the western presence of Russia because we're the enemy. We need to speak, we need to be present and we need to name. What do we do and how do we do it?