Evidence of meeting #37 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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Liberal
Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON
On a point of order, I'm confused. The motion that Mr. Hoback made refers to a motion that.... I don't know what we're talking about. I need to know what motion he is actually asking us to resume debate on.
Garnett Genuis makes motions on many things, on many days, that are unrelated to the topic of the day. I can't even look at the topic of the day to know whether or not the motion was what it was about. What was the motion?
The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Ariane Gagné-Frégeau
The motion that was debated on November 14 is the following:
That the committee report to the House that it calls on the Government of Canada to immediately revoke the waiver to Russian sanctions granted for the export of Gazprom turbines.
Liberal
Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON
On a point of order, that means we have a motion on the floor to resume debate on that. I don't understand the condition that's been attached to it. Are we debating the motion to resume that debate? Has it now been ruled that we can actually debate that motion? Is that where we're at?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi
Those are two separate issues that you subsequently brought up. Actually, he is now asking for a debate on this motion to go back to what we were debating last time.
Liberal
Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON
Okay. For me to understand this, then—and I guess we're into debate now—I would need to understand the logic of saying that this is an important piece of legislation, but he wants to stop debate on it and have no vote on it, and instead resume debate on something else we've dealt with that actually has no impact, because there's a turbine sitting around not being used anywhere. It is not an urgent debate to get the turbine going.
I am really missing something. It may be jet lag, because I've been travelling, but I am simply not understanding. This would suspend debate on this whole bill that we're dealing with.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi
One second, please; I'm sorry.
Actually, right now the clerk is telling me that because there was a condition in the motion that you're putting up for debate, this is not actually allowed. You could have had the opportunity and the prerogative to actually bring a dilatory motion, but not one that has a condition.
Conservative
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
Then I would have to change the motion to something that would be dilatory in nature. Okay.
Then my motion would be changed to—
Liberal
Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I had a point of order prior to this intervention.
November 16th, 2022 / 4:55 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
I make the motion that the committee proceed to consideration—
NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
There's a point of order, and my hand was up, so he has to wait and then he gets the floor.
Liberal
Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC
At the time of my point of order, which was a few minutes ago now, Mr. Chair, the witness who was before us to testify on the matter had joined the ranks of the Conservative members of the committee. I believe that is not only inappropriate, but contrary to the rules.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi
Yes, that is a behaviour I have never seen before myself. Allow me to check with the clerk.
