Okay.
We've heard some testimony that it is dire. We've heard that medicine is not getting through and that there's not enough food. Some aid is getting through, but not nearly enough.
We heard testimony in an earlier panel that the Lachin corridor was open and free to movement. You're saying that it has been a more controlled movement.
What objective criteria would you suggest that this committee evaluate so we can collectively determine Canada's position on the present crisis, or would you not describe it as a crisis?