There are a lot of genocidal elements to it. There's no question about that. There is their disrespect for culture, the disrespect for children, the abduction of children and the kidnapping case that the ICC is now taking. They're taking it as a separate war crime, but as you know, under the genocide convention, one definition of genocide is the deliberate intent to destroy the cultural life and the cultural vitality of a people's language and a people's way of life.
Ukrainian people have been through a lot, historically. I think we've all learned a great deal about the nature of—