Thank you.
I want to thank you for your work on this and also give you time to finish your thoughts on those questions.
I think what our committee is wrestling with is the effectiveness of sanctions, the importance of sanctions, the difference between sanctions and listings, and the different processes. One is a set of laws we have under sanctions, and another is a Criminal Code listing, designation as a terrorist organization.
I think we all agree at this point that Wagner is an organization whose means and goals are malicious. Canada is looking for ways to stop that.
I want to give you a chance, also, to talk about the difference between our regime and that of other countries, which are long-established. I want you to take the time to help us. I'm not trying to score points here. I'm trying to get answers.