Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to come back to the energy issue raised by my colleague Mr. Chong.
A little earlier, when Mr. Oliphant questioned you, you talked about a pivot and changing paternalistic relationships to one of equal relationships between economic partners. This reminds me of the language we use to talk about our relationship with indigenous communities. We say that choices must be free and informed. In terms of energy, I think we have to distinguish between industrial energy needs and individual energy needs.
Mr. Smith told us that most countries don't have access to electricity. In these circumstances, low-cost energy sources tend to be wind and solar. If our goal is to give people energy, not industrial processes, we need to promote solar and wind energy. In that sense, we mustn't confuse our commercial interests, which are to trade in oil and gas, with the energy development of Africans.
I don't know if you agree with me, but clean energy sources may be more attractive to them than gas and oil.