Thank you to both of the officials for being with us today.
I'll be asking three questions. One is with respect to displaced persons, who make up about a quarter of the population. The second is with respect to the role of the OAS and Canada's position within the OAS. The third one will be on any possible normalization—or not—of diplomatic relations.
With respect to displaced persons, estimates are that about a quarter of the population, or maybe eight million or nine million people—it's hard to get the number—have left Venezuela. We know they've gone to a variety of countries in the neighbourhood, as well as to some island states nearby. Is there any sign of them returning to Venezuela with the so-called operation, or is there a sense that this will be a longer, protracted displacement of people?
