It's not good, but I wouldn't overestimate how much people are looking at us.
In preparation for this hearing, I asked friends across the region—Americans, Indians, etc.—what they thought about Canada's Indo-Pacific strategy. My American colleague, who was in charge of planning for the Indo-Pacific at Camp Smith in Hawaii, said, “That's like a Trivial Pursuit question.” Our profile is not that high, which is why identifying niche areas—dark vessel technology is great—or specific countries, like those in the Pacific Islands, or the Francophonie push.... Identifying places where we can stand out would make people care more.