Very quickly, on the way we frame the issues, “either-or” is not productive, because it forces Canada to put itself in contradictory policies. We want to fight climate change and we want to have environmental policies, yet we want to increase fossil-fuel energy, and then people say these cannot be reconciled.
Avoiding these binary concepts or ideas would benefit Canada, because in many ways—and Stéphanie Martel is the specialist—ASEAN functions in this non-confrontational way, and it has kept the organization going.
It's key to learn from the region as well.