On CPC-2, what we're trying to do is prevent the sanctions evasion tactics that are....
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We want to make sure that “immediate family member” is more carefully defined, and we want to strengthen it to ensure that people aren't using their family members or extended family members, whether it's siblings, their dependent children, parents or even grandparents, to hide their wealth and to avoid sanctions here in Canada.
We've had support for that.
Brandon Silver gave some really great testimony on this. He said:
On a per capita basis, Canada is one of the leaders in sanctions implementation, but we are lacking in enforcement.... By adding in visa bans on immediate family members, we're helping to close some of those gaps”.
He also said:
I want to comment that their assertion around dependent family members does not reflect the practice of allies. The European Union has associated family members, which goes beyond dependents, and the United States also goes beyond dependent family members.
Vladimir Kara-Murza, in talking about what's happening in Russia, said that they “all hid behind not dependents but siblings, adult non-dependent children or spouses and so on.” That's for making sure they can hide their illicit wealth.
That's where we need to go to ensure Canada is not being used as a safe haven to allow those who have already been named and sanctioned to use the back door in using their family members to access our better property market or our safer banking system.