Evidence of meeting #18 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was gillani.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
I would “thoughtfully request”. That's only fair, and you're a model of fairness.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi
Okay, Mr. Holder, you can start, and then when the bells ring, you'll be finished. We have to discuss committee business.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
Mr. Harvey, I'd like to come back to understanding the relationship with Mr. Snowdy.
My Cape Breton mom used to say that if it sounds too good to be true, then it likely isn't true. As I've heard you talk about your dozens of meetings with Mr. Gillani and what sounds like a single meeting that you had with Mr. Jaffer, it sounds as if there were promises made but not kept. Is that a fair assumption?
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
Coming back to some point when you ultimately engaged Mr. Snowdy, I want to clarify that matter, if I can. You indicated that you were aware of Mr. Snowdy's involvement in June or July of 2009.
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
But you were also aware that he had been doing an ongoing investigation with someone else.
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As an Individual
I'm sorry to interrupt. This was for my business partner. He could have started with him earlier, but with respect to the lengthened term of his looking into the affairs, I only knew what I saw in the newspaper.
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
Would you clarify for me, because I want to be clear on this, whether Mr. Snowdy was a friend of yours for 20 years or a friend of your business partner?
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
Do you have any sense of who Mr. Snowdy was investigating prior to...who he was acting on behalf of at that time?
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
You have no idea. That being the case, though, at some point in June or July you hired him.
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As an Individual
Yes, we hired him inasmuch as he had shared with me that he would offer to look into the affairs of what we were potentially being set up for. He also said he was familiar with some of the dealings of “these types of people”, as he put it.
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
So if you were aware in June or July that you actually were prepared to engage him, but you had business dealings with Mr. Gillani until December... Is that correct?
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Conservative
Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON
There was something, clearly, in the early summer that made you suspect or gave you great concerns, but you continued to have meetings and do business with Mr. Gillani. I'm a little confused by that.
