Evidence of meeting #74 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Bill Matthews  Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Christine Walker  Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Services, Treasury Board Secretariat
Sally Thornton  Executive Director, Expenditure Strategies and Estimates, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Alex Lakroni  Chief Financial Officer, Finance Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
John McBain  Assistant Deputy Minister, Real Property Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Brigitte Fortin  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Accounting, Banking and Compensation Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

12:45 p.m.

Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Accounting, Banking and Compensation Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Brigitte Fortin

We are proceeding with the pay consolidation project in four phases over the next four years. We have already implemented the first phase. We have 246 employees on board delivering services. The project will be complete in 2014-15, when the new pay system is implemented.

This is the point we are at currently. We are confident that we will be realizing those two projects, pay modernization and pay consolidation, within the $309-million budget.

The organization managing this project is the same organization that has just completed, successfully and within the budget, the modernization of pension administration, which was also a major IT project that included consolidating services in a centre of expertise in Shediac, New Brunswick.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Thank you.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Thank you very much, Madame Fortin.

Thank you, John. Your five minutes is well up.

I'm conscious of the time. The clock in this room is not correct; it is four or five minutes slow. It's actually closer to ten minutes to one; therefore, I think we're going to consider this part of our meeting concluded.

Thank you very much, Mr. Lakroni, Mr. McBain, and Madame Fortin, for your presentation today.

12:45 p.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Finance Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Alex Lakroni

Thank you very much.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

I will suspend the meeting for just a few seconds while the witnesses excuse themselves.

The meeting is still in public. I would like to move directly to consideration of the votes on supplementary estimates (C).

I'm going to put the votes on supplementary estimates (C). You have them on the flip side of your agenda.

CANADIAN HERITAGE Public Service Commission Vote 95c—Program expenditures..........$1

(Vote 95c agreed to on division)

PRIVY COUNCIL Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat Vote 7c—Pursuant to subsection 25(2) of the Financial Administration Act..........$1

(Vote 7c agreed to on division)

PUBLIC WORKS AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES Department Vote 1c—Operating expenditures..........$89,790,744 Vote 5c—Capital expenditures..........$60,111,617 Vote 6c—Real Property Disposition Revolving Fund..........$1

(Votes 1c, 5c and 6c agreed to on division)

Shall vote 20c under Public Works and Government Services carry?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

If it's agreed that we're going to see Shared Services Canada, which is a part of Public Works, perhaps we should delay the vote until after we have seen them.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Could I speak to that, Chair?

12:50 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Yes, briefly. Keep in mind we're going in camera.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

As I understood it, the rule was that we request specifically whom we want to hear. We weren't interested because we had just heard from them. We can hear from them in the main estimates. I think we have other things to deal with.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Braid Conservative Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

I would agree. That's a good suggestion.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

I thought that was the general feeling. Now that the main estimates have been tabled, people can go after those lines directly.

I'm going to continue.

Shared Services Canada Vote 20c—Operating expenditures..........$1 Vote 25c—Capital expenditures..........$1

(Votes 20c and 25c agreed to on division)

TREASURY BOARD Secretariat Vote 1c—Program expenditures..........$1 Vote 15c—Compensation Adjustments..........$10,655,589

(Votes 1c and 15c agreed to on division)

Shall the chair report the supplementary estimates (C) to the House?

12:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Pat Martin

Thank you very much.

I'm going to suspend while we go in camera to discuss two items of business stemming from our planning meeting held yesterday.

[Proceedings continue in camera]