Evidence of meeting #13 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was corporation.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Deepak Chopra  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation
Jacques Côté  Group President, Physical Delivery Network, Canada Post Corporation
Susan Margles  Vice-President, Government Relations and Policy Framework, Canada Post Corporation
Christine Donoghue  Acting President, Public Service Commission
Wilma Vreeswijk  Deputy Minister and President, Canada School of Public Service
Joe Friday  Commissioner, Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner of Canada

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

As we mentioned, the issues and challenges will not go away, so the cash generation ability of the corporation won't work back to financial self-sustainability until we have a set of options that can balance the books.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Okay. You also suspended or eliminated the price increase on stamps I heard for this year.

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

We have suspended that.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

How much is that going to cost us, and by “us” I mean Canada Post, the government, taxpayers eventually? What will that cost us in a 12-month period?

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

The annual impact of that is roughly $30 million.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

And the general suspension of the five-point plan, switching over to community mailboxes, how much will we add to our collective debt from that in a one-year period, assuming there'll be time for review, etc.?

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

Canada Post had $700 million to $900 million savings from our transformation plan. We reported in our annual report that we had achieved $390 million of savings from that plan.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

But we're stopping now.

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

So the balance of the savings that were projected will be on hold until such time as we have a new plan.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Ballpark how much, though?

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

About $400 million to $500 million.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

We've heard different numbers about how many people get door to door. I'm blessed right now, I do, but in the past I've done community. It shows 27% are door to door.

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

That is correct; 27% is door to door. The remainder receive their mail....

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Right, then 26% have community, apartment, and so on.

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

Yes. No door. It will be some form of centralized delivery, which is a more efficient method of delivery for us.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

About 73% are....

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

So 73% is some form of centralized or group mailbox or rural mailbox, and 27% of Canadians receive door to door.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Is it fiscal year end where the pension holiday ends and you have to start contributing?

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

Yes. Canada Post has the calendar year.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

How much are we on the hook for on your bottom line then if you have to start contributing?

4:10 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

It's difficult to estimate; I mentioned the interest rate variation....

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Just give us a ballpark figure. How much were you contributing per year before the pension holiday started?

4:15 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

We had contributed and then we used some other instruments. We contributed close to $1 billion in special payments prior to the holiday close.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

All things being equal, our bottom line next year will show minus.

4:15 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Post Corporation

Deepak Chopra

I think it's a cash generation issue versus a profit and loss issue. It's more balance sheet and cash generation.