Evidence of meeting #3 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Paul Cardegna

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

We have now adjourned discussion on the motion by Mr. Paul-Hus.

The next step was to come to you, Mr. Green, on your motion and reopen the discussion we ended on as of last meeting. It would have to be....

Can you confirm this for me? You're removing a motion to reconsider your motion. Is that correct?

5:50 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

No, I'm not removing any motion.

My motion was put forward. I allowed Mr. Paul-Hus to take the floor to put forward his motion, as he did in this free-for-all, and in that chaos we're now at a place where that's been adjourned. The motion that I have is still in adjournment from the last committee, as I understand.

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

The committee needs to decide whether they want to resume discussion of your motion.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I still have the floor, so I would like to put to this committee that we resume debate on that motion. I do believe, Mr. Chair, that we can get somewhere substantive if we remove the WE from that and change some of the dates, but damn it, let's get to work here.

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

I will put forward the motion that we reconsider Mr. Green's motion that's on the floor.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

On a point of clarification, Mr. Chair, I thought we adjourned debate so we could move to subcommittee. That's the understanding I got.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

No.

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

No, that was the motion...not to go to subcommittee.

So, do I see consensus to resume debate? No.

Then we need a recorded division on that vote.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a quick question.

Is this a debatable motion?

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

No. The vote is whether to resume debate and we're calling a recorded vote.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Is that a debatable motion?

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

No.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay.

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

I'll have the clerk speak to that.

5:55 p.m.

The Clerk

If I may, the motion to resume consideration, or essentially to move to another order of business, is considered a dilatory motion. Therefore, it is non-amendable and non-debatable. When it's proposed, the question has to be put to allow the committee to decide immediately which issue it wishes to proceed to discuss.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay.

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Mr. Clerk, go ahead.

5:55 p.m.

The Clerk

On the motion to resume consideration of the motion in the name of Mr. Green and the amendment in the name of Mr. MacKinnon, I will now call the roll.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 10; nays 0)

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

I heard Mr. Green first, and then Mr. MacKinnon.

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Mr. Chair, I do appreciate the opportunity to revisit this. You can probably pick up in my voice some of the frustration that I've had—

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

I'm sorry, just a second, Mr. Green. Is this a point of order, or are you resuming?

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I believe I picked up the floor to be able to speak to this motion.

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Certainly.

Mr. MacKinnon has a point of order first.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

On a point of clarification, I believe that when we left this motion the last time, as I indicated earlier, there were appropriately put amendments on the floor and we were in the process of taking up the debate on those amendments. Is that correct?

5:55 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

That is correct.