Evidence of meeting #3 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Paul Cardegna

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Correct.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Okay. Do we have a consensus?

As you have the floor, I guess I'm asking the committee if there's consensus to adjourn the debate.

Mr. Green, go ahead.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I don't think we have consensus to adjourn this. I'm wondering how many people were remaining to speak to this motion.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

We had four more people speaking on the amendment.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

You're suggesting that by adjourning the amendment, we adjourn the whole motion.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

That's correct. We adjourn the debate on it.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Then do we call the question? If you're saying that we're adjourning the debate, it would just be—

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

I'll defer to the clerk for a second.

6:15 p.m.

The Clerk

When a committee is dealing with an amendment to a motion and it adjourns debate on the amendment, what it essentially means is that you cannot take up the main motion again. The reason is that the amendment supersedes it. You must deal with the amendment first. Now you can deal with the amendment either by adopting it, defeating it or adjourning the debate on it.

In this case, Mr. MacKinnon has moved that we adjourn the debate on the amendment. What that essentially means is that we cannot continue with the discussion in general of either your motion or the amendment, until such time as the committee wishes to bring it up at a future time, provided the motion is agreed to.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

With that, Mr. Chair, I'm going to ask your indulgence so that I'm clear in my mind procedurally.

If the debate is adjourned, is the motion still active, or would I have the ability to resubmit a motion that might be broken up into two parts for the purpose of having that addressed at some future time?

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

The motion is still active and can be picked up at any time.

6:20 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

But I can't change it. Is that correct?

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

If you want to, you can.

6:20 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

All right. I can't speak to this. I respect that.

I don't support the adjournment, because there's something I want to say about it.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

I'm going to call for a recorded vote by the clerk.

6:20 p.m.

The Clerk

The motion is to adjourn the debate.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 7; nays 3)

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Thank you, Mr. Clerk.

We will adjourn the debate on this motion.

Mr. Drouin, go ahead.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Mr. Chair, can I make a suggestion and move a motion to adjourn, or seek my colleagues' preference to move to subcommittee so we can deal with the four motions we have already adopted and start scheduling meetings?

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Do we have consensus for Mr. Drouin's motion?

6:20 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

No.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

We'll have a vote.

6:20 p.m.

The Clerk

The motion is that the meeting be now adjourned.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 9; nays 1)

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Robert Gordon Kitchen

Before we adjourn and leave the room, I just want to say that, as this meeting is complete, the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure will now meet.

When I adjourn this meeting, the technical staff will end the meeting in Zoom. This means that members of the subcommittee cannot remain logged into this meeting. In order to participate in the subcommittee meeting, they must reconvene. Members of the subcommittee will have to sign into the meeting after this meeting is adjourned, using the password and the link sent to them by the clerk earlier today.

With that said, we are now adjourned.