Evidence of meeting #55 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was debate.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Wonderful.
Shall votes referred to the committee in the supplementary estimates (C), 2022-23 carry?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
On division. Wonderful.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES
Vote 1c—Operating expenditures..........$ 13,334,589
(Vote 1c agreed to on division)
PRIVY COUNCIL OFFICE
Vote 1c—Program expenditures..........$2,773,222
(Vote 1c agreed to on division)
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
Vote 1c—Program expenditures..........$1,432,258
(Vote 1c agreed to on division)
TREASURY BOARD SECRETARIAT
Vote 1c—Program expenditures..........$1,860,409
Vote 10c—Government-wide Initiatives..........$9,265,000
Vote 30c—Paylist Requirements..........$140,000,000
(Votes 1c, 10c and 30c agreed to on division)
Shall I report the votes back to the House?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Wonderful. Thank you very much.
I have Mrs. Kusie, and I think Mr. Kusmierczyk, you wanted to respond.
Conservative
Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB
Sure. I guess Mr. Johns can.... Do I move it again, or do we just go back to his amendment or what?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Colleagues, there was discussion about moving the motion for the production of the documents to the end of the meeting. I'll be honest and say I can't recall if it was Mr. Johns or perhaps from Mr. Jowhari.
I'll go to Mr. Kusmierczyk, then Mr. Johns.
Liberal
Irek Kusmierczyk Liberal Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
Mr. Chair, I had a chance to actually speak with Mr. Jowhari before he left. He made it quite clear that his motion was to adjourn debate, so debate is adjourned on that motion today.
The understanding of our side was that the debate has been adjourned.
NDP
Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC
My only comment is that I thought we would go to my amendment, which was on the floor. That was the discussion.
That's all I was trying to clarify, but it sounds like that's moot at this point.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
I think our clerk is looking in the big green book, so give me two seconds, please.
We'll suspend for 30 seconds.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Colleagues, I am advised by the clerk that someone can move to resume debate on it and that just becomes a majority vote.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
I can have the clerk explain a bit more, if you wish to wait a second.
Liberal
The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Aimée Belmore
The idea of adjourning debate is to adjourn debate until the conclusion of the order of business.
We adjourned debate on the motion of Mrs. Kusie and moved to the next order of business on the agenda, which was the supplementary estimates.
The supplementary estimates have now been concluded and it is the committee's time to move to a further order of business. At this point, at an intervening proceeding, someone can move to resume debate on the amendment of Mrs. Kusie. It would be a majority vote in that case—whichever way the majority goes—and then the debate could either resume or be further concluded until the committee decides to resume debate on the motion of Mrs. Kusie.
The Clerk
Have I confused you more? I'm so sorry.
We proceeded to the next thing that we were supposed to do. We have since concluded that—that being the supplementary estimates—and we were moving on to the next thing the committee was going to do. The next thing the committee was going to do was move into committee business.
If the committee chooses to do something else with its time, that is its purview. It's an intervening proceeding.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
My understanding is that a move to resume debate becomes a majority vote issue.
Mrs. Kusie wishes it. Am I correct there?
Conservative
Conservative
The Clerk
Thank you, kindly.
The question is to resume debate on the motion of Mrs. Kusie.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
I guess Mr. Johns is first, then Mrs. Kusie.
I'm making a speaking list: Mr. Johns, Mrs. Kusie—
