Evidence of meeting #18 for Health in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was police.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. David Gagnon
Meredith MacKenzie  Physician, Street Health Centre, Kingston Community Health Centres
Sarah Brown  Harm Reduction Worker, Centretown Community Health Centre
Jane Buxton  Professor, University of British Columbia; Epidemiologist and Harm Reduction Lead BC Centre for Disease Control, As an Individual
Pierre Poirier  Executive Director, Paramedic Association of Canada
Christine Lalonde  Peer Researcher, Centretown Community Health Centre
Philippe Méla  Procedural Clerk

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Shall the chair report the bill to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I'm sorry, I would like to move an amendment to one of the clauses, Mr. Chairman, specifically when we get to proposed new subsection 4.1(2).

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

It was already adopted and carried.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

We were moving very quickly. I was expecting that we were going to go through this clause by clause. I did not hear that clause called. It went from short title to the whole bill.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

It is clause 2, and we had called for it to carry, and we received unanimous consent to carry it, and the title and the bill.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I would like to back it up a little bit, Mr. Chair.

I did not understand that. I'm working off a bill where I thought clause 2 was number 2, and I was waiting for numbers 4.1(1) and 4.1(2) to be called.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

We need unanimous consent to go back.

Do we have unanimous consent to go back and review clause 2?

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chair, could I speak to that?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Yes.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I don't know how we're going to operate as colleagues, but this is the very first time we've done clause-by-clause. We obviously moved extremely quickly. I have a right to move amendments, and I was waiting for that.

I would ask my colleagues to not rely on a quick technicality to prevent one of the members at this committee from moving an amendment. You can vote the way you want, but I believe that in this kind of circumstance, to treat a colleague that way is not very collegial. I don't think that's the way this committee should be operating or treating each other.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Do we have any discussion on this?

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Conservative

Len Webber Conservative Calgary Confederation, AB

Mr. Chair, I think we should allow Mr. Davies to move his amendments, and then we can vote from there.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Mr. Eyolfson.

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Liberal

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB

I agree.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

The committee as a whole has operated smoothly. As a committee we've done well, so I agree with this.

We will go back and allow Mr. Davies to move his amendments.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Thank you, colleagues. I appreciate that.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

I just want to say, too, that I appreciate all the members and the way this committee has worked so far. I appreciate it a lot.

(On clause 2)

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Thank you to all my colleagues.

Essentially what I want to do is propose an amendment to the bill at proposed new subsection 4.1(2).

I'm going to preface my comments by congratulating Mr. McKinnon and thanking him for bringing this important bill to Parliament's attention. As I said before, I will support it in any event.

My amendment would be to broaden the exemption in 4.1(2), to exempt people at the scene of a drug overdose not only from being charged with possession but from being charged for any violation of pretrial release, probation, furlough, or parole related to a drug offence.

As soon as people have internalized that, I'll speak to that.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

We need that in writing so we can analyze it.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Amendments don't have to be put in writing at this stage. They can be made from the floor.

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Philippe Méla Procedural Clerk

If I may, Mr. Davies, just for my own purpose, it's to look at it in terms of procedural admissibility, to see where it fits in the bill, and then I can advise the chair if it's admissible or not.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I don't have it in writing, so we'll have to fit it in now. I know they don't have to be put in writing, and certainly not in either official language either.

It's kind of awkward, because with 4.1(2), it's hard to see where it actually does exempt from possession.

I would propose, then, that after the words “to be charged” in the third line, adding the words “with any offence concerning a violation of pretrial release, probation,”—tell me if I'm going too fast.

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Procedural Clerk

Philippe Méla

—“with any offence concerning a violation of pretrial release”—