Evidence of meeting #25 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Marjorie Michel  Minister of Health
Weber  Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health
Curtis-Micallef  Deputy Minister, Department of Health
Ianiro  Vice-President, Policy and Programs, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Hébert  President, Canadian Institutes of Health Research
Aung-Thin  Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Products and Food Branch, Department of Health
Hamzawi  President, Public Health Agency of Canada
Lawley  Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Policy Branch, Department of Health
René de Cotret  Assistant Deputy Minister, Oral Health Branch, Department of Health
Robinson  Vice-President, Infectious Diseases and Vaccination Programs Branch, Public Health Agency of Canada

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

You stated something that was not true, Minister.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

You don't like my answer, but you have to let me finish—

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

I have a point of order.

Can we take turns, please? I also think it's difficult for the interpreter to catch up on the....

Thank you.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Mr. Mazier, you asked me a question; let me answer it.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

How about we go on to another question?

Minister, you are responsible for approving or rejecting supervised consumption sites under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. Do you agree with that? You're nodding your head. That's agreement, right?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Yes.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Since 2015, Canada received 230 applications for supervised drug consumption sites. Of the 230, do you know how many were rejected?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I will turn to Kendal. I was not there.

Kendal Weber Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

We provided a written response. I think it has been tabled. I can try to find it quickly right now, but I think you have it. It was provided following the last meeting.

Some of them were submitted. Some of them were withdrawn. Some of them—

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

I have the answer here: The answer is one.

Your department has rejected one supervised consumption site out of 230, Minister—one. Have you ever rejected a supervised consumption site as minister, yes or no?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

The decisions are made by the department. I don't think I have had to approve or reject anything at the moment.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Therefore, it's the department, not you.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

No, I am telling you that, since I have been in office, I have not had to approve or reject any new sites. Those approvals were already in progress.

What I am telling you, and what you refuse to grasp, is that we are working. The provinces and territories are responsible for the services. Even Ontario, which is a province—

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

I have one burning question for you, Minister.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Yes.

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Winnipeg West, MB

I have a point of order. You're over time.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

I have a question, and I have the floor.

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Winnipeg West, MB

On a point of order, you're over time, Mr. Chair.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

No, I'm not.

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Winnipeg West, MB

Yes. You're at six minutes and 22 seconds.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Is injecting fentanyl safe, Minister, yes or no?

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Winnipeg West, MB

I object. On a point of order, it is now six minutes and 30 seconds since you started asking questions.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

I have a point of order, Chair. I have a question.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Yes, ma'am.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

When there is a point of order, does the clock stop?