Evidence of meeting #25 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Marjorie Michel  Minister of Health
Weber  Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health
Curtis-Micallef  Deputy Minister, Department of Health
Ianiro  Vice-President, Policy and Programs, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Hébert  President, Canadian Institutes of Health Research
Aung-Thin  Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Products and Food Branch, Department of Health
Hamzawi  President, Public Health Agency of Canada
Lawley  Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Policy Branch, Department of Health
René de Cotret  Assistant Deputy Minister, Oral Health Branch, Department of Health
Robinson  Vice-President, Infectious Diseases and Vaccination Programs Branch, Public Health Agency of Canada

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Yes.

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Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Thank you.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

I reject—

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Winnipeg West, MB

That was my error. I apologize.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Yes.

Minister, is injecting fentanyl safe, yes or no?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I would say that supervised consumption sites—

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

It's a simple yes or no.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

… are there to save lives and they do save lives.

I know that you are going to tell me that treatment saves lives. I agree that treatment saves lives but supervised consumption sites save lives too. I have seen them—

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

I'll ask the question one more time. It's a very—

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

... with my own eyes, in Vancouver. I have seen—

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Yes, and what you saw—was it safe?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

... ambulances come to the sites.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Was what you saw in those fentanyl injection sites safe? Was injecting fentanyl safe?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I cannot inaudible fentanyl in particular. I have not seen injections of that kind.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

That's it. I'm over time.

Thank you very much.

Ms. Chi, you're next for six minutes.

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Thank you, Minister, and thank you, officials, for attending today. I really appreciate your time.

Minister, we are seeing artificial intelligence being increasingly integrated into health care, from medical imaging and clinical decision support tools to drug discovery and population health analysis. These technologies have the potential to transform how care is delivered across our health system.

From your perspective, what are the most promising ways in which health AI can improve care for patients and support health care providers in their day-to-day work?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I have travelled all across the country. I have visited a lot of hospitals and a lot of companies. As you know, artificial intelligence is already well developed in health care. I often tell people that, despite the challenges that we are seeing today in a health care system under pressure, major changes to the health care system are coming soon, in a few years. Artificial intelligence, which is a tool, will help. I always say that it is a tool and it is going to help to solve a lot of problems. As I said, it will help to fill gaps on the ground. Sometimes, we do not have enough people but we also have advanced technology.

Take regions in Canada's north as an example. When I was in Saskatchewan, I visited an organization that had portable instruments that it was sending to the north. For doctors, that was like tele-medicine. It was really extraordinary to see what they were doing.

When I went to Brampton recently, I saw that they were using robots in operations. Robots are also being used in the Jean Talon Hospital in Montreal and the Toronto General Hospital. You can see how the technology is developing and how it can help to ease some of the stresses in the health care system.

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Two weeks ago, there was an announcement on cancer prevention research, which is very exciting. My mom is a cancer survivor. I think a lot of us have loved ones, friends or family who are going through treatments. Prevention is one of the most powerful tools we have in health policy. The number is pretty staggering—40% of cancers are preventable—and investments in research can dramatically improve outcomes for Canadians.

A $41-million investment to support cancer prevention research across Canada through CIHR and other partner organizations was announced. Can you speak to why prevention is so important and how investments such as this help build a healthier Canada while also strengthening our research ecosystem?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I made that announcement and I would say that the proof of its importance was that we had a survivor with us. She explained precisely the impact of the research on her life. It is often said that, in a number of areas, certainly in health care, we are reactive.

However, in health care, and more particularly in health research, we can show that we are proactive, because of the work done and the funds allocated to that cancer research by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research. We are working on prevention by conducting the most groundbreaking research, with the best researchers and the best teams, in order to ease the burden of cancer on those afflicted by it and on their families.

I put a lot of hope into that funding. Later, Mr. Hébert, from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, will be able to give you more details on the various projects. I believe that 19 projects were funded in that announcement.

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

I also want to ask you about the national conversation on the well-being of men and boys, recognizing the growing concerns around mental health, social isolation and access to services. Could you explain why the conversation is so important at this juncture and how the health portfolio can help improve mental health outcomes for men and boys across the country?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Thank you for the question. I also mentioned that in my opening statement.

As I said, this initiative is very important for me, for the simple reason that, when I became responsible for this portfolio and toured around, people expressed a lot of concern on the health and mental health of men and boys. The conversation was so prevalent everywhere I went that I decided that we must consider what we were going to do. In our discussions, my provincial counterparts have confirmed that there are indeed some concerns and that solutions have to be found.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

The time is up.

Are you good? Okay. Thank you.

Go ahead, Mr. Blanchette-Joncas.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. You are kind.

Good afternoon, Minister.

Welcome to the witnesses joining us today.

Minister, here is my first question for you. I want to know who made the decision to cap laboratory fees in the Canadian Dental Care Plan, starting on October 17, 2025. Was it the department, the program's administrator, or your office?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I am going to turn to the department.

Shalene Curtis-Micallef Deputy Minister, Department of Health

Sir, do you want to know who decided on the amount of the cap?