And I take the view that it's murky, at the least.
The second question, if I have time, has to do with a related issue. It has to do with the scenario where the mother is consenting, if there's a lack of clarity on the mother's consent. Even involving a situation where the mother submits to a therapeutic abortion, if there are questions about the consent, or in a situation where it's not clear where there's consent--and I'm not talking about therapeutic abortions, I'm talking about just inter-human conduct--we wouldn't allow the mother to consent to an assault on an unborn child, would we? I don't think we would. Yet this new section raises the spectre of a woman, if the unborn child does have Criminal Code protection, consenting to something that would hurt the child.
In my view, that raises a charter issue as well. It all has to do with the intentions of the mother at the time of the--