Evidence of meeting #62 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Miriam Burke

4 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I'm the first on the list.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Hold on.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

I recognized him first. Go ahead.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

My understanding--and correct me if I'm wrong--is that you are the chair today. You recognized Mr. Poilievre on a point of order.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Then how could you interrupt? I'm still on my point, then. You can't interrupt me.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Mr. Chair, who's chairing the meeting?

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

Order, order.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

If that's the case, I still have the floor.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

Order, order.

That is correct. Mr. Poilievre raised the point of order and then attempted to put in an amendment to a motion that's on the floor. That is not a point of order. Correct.

Mr. Proulx, and then Madam Redman, did you want to speak? Okay.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I move that the committee immediately consider the request signed by the four members pursuant to Standing Order 106(4) before considering any other business.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I have a point of order. That is not a point of order.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

He didn't call a point of order.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I didn't call a point of order.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Yes, he did.

4:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

Hang on. Order, order.

First of all, I will not listen to comments from the back rows. If I hear interjections from the back rows, I will ask those making the interjections to leave. Please don't do that again.

Mr. Proulx, in my interpretation, was calling a point of order on your point of order.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

That's right, so he cannot move anything.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

Hang on. That rules you out. Mr. Proulx had his hand up. I'm recognizing him next, and he is putting a motion on the floor. We're in order. He has a motion on the floor.

Could you please read your motion again.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Yes, sir.

Mr. Chair, I move that the committee immediately consider the request signed by the four members pursuant to Standing Order 106(4) before considering any other business.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Actually, I have a point of order...[Inaudible--Editor].

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

Mr. Reid.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

I just want to find out what that means before we have a debate on it. I'm not familiar with what that is.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Goodyear

Would you care to explain your motion?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Certainly, Mr. Chair.

It simply means that from this point the committee will deal with the original request of the committee, and I can read from the orders of the day, Mr. Chair, if you wish. The meeting was requested by four members of the committee to discuss looking into allegations made against the Conservative Party of Canada's systematic attempt to defraud Elections Canada, as well as the Canadian taxpayer, in relation to the 2006 federal election.

Mr. Chairman, according to this motion the committee, at this time and at the request of four members of the committee, is to examine the alleged systematic attempts by the Conservative Party of Canada to defraud Elections Canada and Canadian taxpayers in connection with the 2006 election campaign.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

In that case, Mr. Chairman, I'll come back to the point of order here. I stand to be corrected, but I believe it's out of order to put forward a motion that takes precedence over the other motion. I think it was already on the floor. Maybe there's something else going on here, but I don't think it's in order.