We haven't really got this amendment on the table yet, and we're already into a debate on it. It's not that I don't want to hear it, but Madam Redman has raised a significant issue here. I'd like to deal with that. Then if we still feel.... We will need unanimous consent to withdraw this amendment and then we can vote on clause 8. Whether it survives or not, it is what we need to do next.
Right now we're dealing with Madam Redman on an issue, before we table it.
Madam Redman.