Those are value judgments, and it really belongs to parliamentarians to make decisions on them. The problem I'm having with certain parts of this code is that there's very little guidance on just what parliamentarians want their rules to be. That's why I wanted to have the discussion at some point, particularly with respect to gifts. I could put out a bunch of similar problems like you're putting out, but it is a code written by members for members, as I said, and I have to take my guidance to some extent from the members on these questions.
On December 4th, 2008. See this statement in context.