Evidence of meeting #59 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was lethbridge.

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Benoit Montpetit  Team Leader, Technical Expert, Electoral Geography, Elections Canada

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Yes. There's Spruce Cliff, Westgate, Rosscarrock—all communities that are sort of affiliated and all on the same side of the ring road.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Can you see the ring road on the maps that you have provided?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

You can see it here. Sarcee Trail is on the left—

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Sarcee Trail is what you've been calling the ring road?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Sarcee Trail is the ring road, yes.

You can see it on this green map. I think you have a photograph as well. I don't have the full package with me, but if you look at your map, you'll see you have a photograph as well that shows you Signal Hill, which is the dividing line.

Calgary is essentially a bowl that has very large hills around it. Sarcee Trail is the dividing line. Signal Hill is this large bluff that overlooks the city on the other side of the ring road.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I'm just trying to follow the Sarcee Trail on this map right here. Is it where Elections Canada has the dividing line right now, or is it one over, where you've put the new boundary?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

You're looking at the map that we're suggesting. It's the orange line....

Where is Sarcee Trail?

It's where the grey meets the green on the left-hand side.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Right. So it's the further one.

You're saying that the ring road is the natural dividing line—

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Yes, and it has been the consistent boundary.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

—and the boundary should be pushed there.

You've suggested taking this further part out on the eastern side of your riding and including that southwestern piece as compensation. But that Calgary Shepard area is not well populated, correct, and mostly industrial?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

It's industrial.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Is it also in that bowl that you talked about, as Calgary is designed?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Well, it's on the other side, kind of...but yes, I guess it is. Actually, I think the topography kind of goes back up at Blackfoot Trail.

That's all industrial going through Calgary Shepard. In fact, that's what Calgary Shepard is named after, a big industrial area. It makes perfect sense that the little sliver of industrial that they were planning to put into Calgary Centre should be in Calgary Shepard.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Great. Thank you.

Mr. Shory, I think the changes you've talked about are quite nominal. Did you say at one point in your testimony that they were talking about nine electors being changed from—

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Conservative Calgary Northeast, AB

Five.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Oh, five. Excuse me. I didn't want to exaggerate your statement.

12:20 p.m.

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12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

So it's five electors, and it's a commercial section of town.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Conservative Calgary Northeast, AB

It is commercial. I honestly don't know where those five even live. I didn't think anyone lived in that section.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

We didn't see a map proposal from you, did we? Or maybe I just missed it during your testimony.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Conservative Calgary Northeast, AB

I received the proposed copies from the committee, so you should have it somewhere.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Can we bring up Mr. Devinder Shory's riding? There is a section on it.

Can you explain to us, Mr. Shory, the changes on this map?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Conservative Calgary Northeast, AB

Is this scenario one or two?

On the west side, at present this new riding called Calgary Skyview will go on 32nd—

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Using the map, can you tell us?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Conservative Calgary Northeast, AB

Yes, at present it runs on the west side of 32nd Street and it goes up to 36th Street. I'd like to extend it all the way to Deerfoot Trail, which is on the northwest side of 32nd Street, and as I mentioned, will have all commercial activities. My office is right in between 36th Street and Barlow, which is scenario one, sent to me by the committee.