Let me deal with the question of balance.
The population growth has generated the entitlement, if you will, to six ridings as opposed to five and a half. Something had to be done; there's no disagreement there. The question was how you moved it so that you stayed within 100,000 to 110,000 constituents.
I thought the first proposal actually did that quite well, and I thought it kept, I'd say, five out of the six of us relatively within the concept of what we would understand to be balance. Dan is on the sidelines here because his hasn't actually changed all that much
Second of all, with respect to the communities that might be affected by the previous proposal, I know those communities. I'm not prepared to argue whether they're a split or they're not a split. All I do know is that in order to keep those communities together, in effect, you affect a whole bunch of stable communities, older communities, communities that have a history in Scarborough. In order to accommodate these communities, you've disrupted.... If you're accommodating two communities, you are disrupting ten, twelve, or fourteen communities. I can go through and name them.
The third and fourth points are actually the same, regarding whether you do the two and a half, or three and a half east or west. If you do the two and a half, if you in effect make the half riding north and south of the 401 on the west side, you actually disrupt a far larger or more dense population by doing that. If you do it on the east side, you actually have a little bit more coherence. The reason you have a little bit more coherence is that the eastern boundary between Scarborough and Pickering, and between Scarborough and Durham is the Rouge River, now a national park. They are distinct communities. The people in Pickering are represented by a distinct municipal government, so it makes some sense.
My final point is that I actually represented that area, lo these many years ago. It was actually a fairly coherent riding. It was Scarborough East. It was both north and south of the 401. There was actually a lot of intercourse between the north and the south by virtue of the location of community centres, by virtue of the park, by virtue of the interests people have in the park, and by virtue of the traffic flows as well.
I actually think they made the wrong choice. Stay with the east and try not to disrupt ten, twelve, or fourteen communities in order to satisfy what are the perceived needs of two.