Make sure it is one.
Evidence of meeting #18 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Evidence of meeting #18 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A video is available from Parliament.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
I always do my best at trying to make sure it is one, Mr. Chair.
When do you anticipate...are we going to be sitting through question period today? Can you give us some indication as to when it is that we would be adjourning, because I do have...with all seriousness, this is an important issue, there's no doubt about it, I'm prepared to talk at great length. I've been very...and you as the chair have been very patient listening to David, very patient. I have a lot of thoughts on the issue too, that I'd like to be able to share with committee members.
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Liberal
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
Yes. It looks like we'll give you all the time that we can today.
Mr. Christopherson, of course, controls that destiny also. He's the one who has the floor. There are certainly speakers on my list, I think you're second down. When Mr. Christopherson is finished, after another speaker after him will be you.
I have a speakers list and you could come up and look if you wanted.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Not to frustrate you at all, Mr. Chair, because that's not my purpose.
After Mr. Christopherson is done speaking, then I think it's Mr. Lukiwski.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Then it would be me, so I should anticipate I should hang around until I have at least been afforded the opportunity to speak because then we're not going to adjourn.
The last thing I want to do is hang around for three hours, and then finally get my turn to speak, and then the gavel comes down, and we're adjourned. Do you know what I mean?
If I'm going to be speaking, I'm game. I'm happy to speak. It's a little out of the normal, but I'm more than happy to speak.
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
Your chair has no crystal ball on that. Mr. Christopherson is the one controlling the destiny on that right now. He has the floor. When he chooses to give the floor to others, then that would be fine.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Then, Mr. Chair, would it be appropriate if I were to ask leave of the committee to ask Mr. Christopherson a couple of questions?
1:15 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Sure. As long as I still have the floor, Chair, I'll be glad to allow an intervention of a question.
1:15 p.m.
Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
I have a point of order on Mr. Lamoureux's point of order.
Can Mr. Lamoureux or anyone else show me the procedural guidelines to permit that sort of thing? We're in the midst of a filibuster. We're asking for David to continue. We're not giving concurrence. We're not giving agreement to adjourn the meeting at one o'clock. That's been established. We've already cited the precedent for that.
I know no such precedent that allows interruption of a filibuster to entertain questions.
1:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
In the goodwill of this committee, that would often happen during debate, and it would carry forward, but this committee seems to have lost a large element of its goodwill and is moving forward on a time-consuming discussion on a motion.
So we'll let Mr. Christopherson get back to that, and we'll again hope for a complete lack of repetition and some relevance in his discussion.
Mr. Christopherson, you're up.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Thanks, Chair.
The first thing I would like to do is take you up on your offer to see the speakers list.
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NDP
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Conservative
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Conservative
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
I didn't know why that was a national secret because you deliberately went out of your way to tell us who was the third, fourth, and fifth.
You didn't want to tell us that the government has the floor next because that's the game plan isn't it, Chair?
The game plan is to force me eventually to let go of the floor mostly through exhaustion or other pressures, and then they get the floor next. Then they are going to move a motion that effectively shuts everything down. That's the game plan isn't it, Chair?
Are you going to tell me you don't know that's the game plan, Chair?
1:15 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
I'm asking, Chair. Do you know the government's game plan?