Evidence of meeting #18 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
I'd be happy to move the floor that way because of your questioning being off topic on relevance.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
No. I think you answered it so it's fine. I think we got the answer we were looking for, Chair. That's the game plan here. This is what's been set up.
No, Mr. Shory, I defer to all your experience on this matter, but I do have the floor, sir.
The fact of the matter is this is all set up just like the bloody bill itself. The fix is in that the chair knew exactly what Mr. Lukiwski was going to ask, in my opinion, who knew this was going to happen, and—
—Mr. Lukiwski had... Hey, it's my opinion. I'm entitled to it. You can't outlaw that yet.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
Out of courtesy to David, I'll tell you exactly what the game plan is. No, the chair was not aware. I'll tell you exactly what's going to happen.
Yes. When you're finally done speaking, then it comes to me. I have a motion on the table. That will be open for debate. You can go right back into what you have just been doing. That's what we're doing.
Eventually, as you have said many times before, we'll get to the point where we start to entertain witnesses because this charade will be over. We will start to hear witnesses who have wanted to be here for the last week. You keep mentioning groups like Leadnow. They were here. They could have participated, but you said no because you wanted to filibuster to make a political point.
That's the game plan. I don't appreciate it. I'm sure the chair doesn't either when you have accused the chair of being complicit in some sort of conspiracy. I have laid it out for you. You know exactly what our game plan is.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Yes. Now that you got caught out you had to so that was the right thing to do.
Come on. The chair deliberately overlooked your name. We've all been around here for a while. So that's the game plan.
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Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
My name was on the speakers list from day one.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
I wish you would because you and I have a fairly good relationship, but it's eroding at the moment.
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Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Yes, and it's related to the list.
Mr. Lukiwski made reference to the fact that he was next on the list, and it goes back to a few days ago. You actually made a ruling, if I could put it that way, a few days ago, Mr. Chairperson. You indicated that it is actually a new list whenever we reconvene.
1:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
It turned out that I was incorrect. I apologized to Mr. Christopherson, and let him still be at the top of the list after that. We have changed the piece of paper—I see new writing today—but it's the same list. We've maintained it for the three different meetings now, as Mr. Christopherson—
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
It's just out of fear. You can appreciate that my fear is that....
I've rarely gotten the chance to speak here in the last few days. Mr. Lukiwski has now indicated that he has a motion that he's going to bring forward. I'd love it if we could provide that motion. But my fear is that the moment he brings forward that motion, somehow I'm going to get bumped again. Or I shouldn't say “again”, but it's not going to be me following Mr. Lukiwski.
I just want to make sure there's a consensus that after Mr. Lukiwski does whatever it is that he does, I will be afforded the opportunity, given the fact that I've been, as you have, Mr. Chair, very patient in going through this whole process. That assurance would be wonderful.
If Mr. Lukiwski could share the motion with the committee, that would be very helpful.
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Conservative
Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK
Mr. Chair, I've already given notice of the motion. That was presented last week.
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Voices
Yes.