Evidence of meeting #55 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was clause.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Andre Barnes  Committee Researcher

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

(Subamendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Back to amendment G-1, as unamended, with no changes to it.

11:40 a.m.

An hon. member

A recorded vote.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Sure. I'll remind the group that if G-1 does carry, L-1 would not come forward.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 5 ; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Since NDP-5 has been ruled inadmissible, shall clause 2 carry?

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

Lib-1 is out too?

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Lib-1 is out also.

Shall clause 2 carry, as amended?

(Clause 2 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 3)

NDP-6 was inadmissible, consequential to NDP-1, so was NDP-7.

We're at NDP-8 and, if it is adopted, the question cannot be put on NDP-9, G-2, or L-2.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

Sorry, we're at NDP-5?

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

NDP-8, if you're moving it.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

No, I think I'll decline to move for efficiency's sake, because it's the same discussion we've had that applies exactly to this.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

In that case, then, I will move to NDP-9. Again, if NDP-9 is adopted, the question will not be put on G-2 or L-2.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

I'll also decline to move.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

All right.

That moves us to Government-2. If Government-2 is adopted, the question will not be put on Liberal-2.

On Government-2?

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

So moved.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Is there any discussion?

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Go ahead, Craig, if you want.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

I was going to say exactly what Tom was about to say. Basically, this is exactly the same as before—

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Exactly.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

—and therefore, we would want to move the exact same two amendments, but rather than wasting time in doing so, given the writing is on the wall, I won't do that. We will be voting against the amendment for the reasons that we would prefer our own amendment and we would have liked those two subamendments.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Is there any further discussion on G-2? Seeing none, all in favour?

11:40 a.m.

An hon. member

Recorded vote.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

G-2 is carried, so L-2 will not be moved.

NDP-10 was inadmissible because of the ruling.

Shall clause 3 carry as amended?

11:40 a.m.

An hon. member

Recorded vote.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

A recorded vote on clause 3.

(Clause 3 as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 3)

(On clause 4—Application)

We go to clause 4. Shall clause 4 carry?

Mr. Lukiwski.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Can I speak to this? We're not going to vote for it. I talked to Craig and I talked to the Liberals before, through Kevin Lamoureux. This is not amendable; we're not putting in an amendment to this because you can't. We're voting against it only because this says that the bill would then come into force on the date it was introduced, and we're saying on the date it is given royal assent. That's why we're voting against this clause, to make sure that that's when the provisions of this bill will take effect.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

That covers your other amendments.