Procedure and House Affairs Committee on Dec. 11th, 2014

[Tom Lukiwski, Conservative, Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK]

It's distracting.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Yes, it's way too laid back here today.

Shall clause 5 carry? No.

Do we want a recorded vote on that or are we okay?

[Craig Scott, NDP, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

We're okay with that.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

All right.

(Clause 5 negatived)

(On clause 6)

We're now on to amendment G-2, which was already covered under the consequential amendment G-1.

Therefore, we'll now move to the amended clause 6.

(Clause 6 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 7)

Go ahead, Mr. Lukiwski.

[Tom Lukiwski, Conservative, Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK]

The government will be voting against clause 7.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Is there any discussion or should we go to a recorded vote?

[Craig Scott, NDP, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Is there no amendment on this one?

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

On clause 7 there is no amendment.

[Craig Scott, NDP, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

We're fine with it.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

We're all fine with it being defeated?

All right.

(Clause 7 negatived)

(On clause 8)

Clause 8 is not amended. It sits as it is.

Is there any conversation on clause 8?

Mr. Lukiwski.

[Tom Lukiwski, Conservative, Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK]

The government will be voting against it.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

It will be voting against clause 8.

Are we having a discussion over that?

[Craig Scott, NDP, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

We voted to keep it last time. At the same time that was a symbolic vote, so we're okay with that.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Right.

We're governed on that then.

(Clause 8 negatived)

(On clause 9)

We have amendment G-3 to start off with.

Mr. Lukiwski, may I have you move that?

[Tom Lukiwski, Conservative, Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK]

So moved.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

All right.

Then we have a number of NDP subamendments on clause 9. No, we don't. Sorry.

You're right. I'll get to those.

Amendment G-3 has been moved.

Is there discussion on it?

Mr. Lukiwski.

[Tom Lukiwski, Conservative, Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK]

It gives further clarification on, in the event of a tie, who actually will be presiding over the vote. There's a little bit more precision in case there are two members. For example, if both have the same length of service and you don't actually know which one shall take the chair to preside over the proceedings, it's the one who appears first in the Gazette. It just closes a loophole in case there were any problems with determining exactly who should be the one to preside over the—

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Are there any questions on that government amendment?

[Craig Scott, NDP, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

I have a quick question.

Does this relate to this, or do we deal with this later?

[Tom Lukiwski, Conservative, Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK]

No, we're going to be dealing with this separately.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Okay.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

I would ask Mr. Lukiwski to move amendment G-4.

[Tom Lukiwski, Conservative, Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK]

So moved.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

That will lead us to three NDP subamendments, subamendment 2, subamendment 3, and subamendment 4.

Mr. Scott, would you like to move them, please?

[Craig Scott, NDP, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

I also believe there are subamendments 5 and 6.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

I'm at subamendment 2.