Procedure and House Affairs Committee on Oct. 16th, 2018

[Stephanie Kusie]

This is political activity from a third party.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

You can understand that.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

Yes, I can see where you're coming from.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

All of us have residents in our ridings who have been 20, 30 or 40 years in the country. They run small businesses, or they run an NGO.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

Let's go back to the previous subparagraph, so (b)(i), in the act. It says, “it does not carry on business in Canada, or its only activity carried on in Canada”.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

If they can trigger that one, than the rest of it....

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

Yes.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

That was my question, Do any of these trigger and then they're out, or...?

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

No.

If it's “carry on business” as a normal practice in Canada—

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

It's not “and, in addition, must be a Canadian citizen”.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

Correct.

That's my interpretation. I could be wrong, but Mr. Church is nodding at me.

If I have the blessing of the church....

[Voices]

Oh, oh!

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

Separation of church and state.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

What we're getting at is those who are set up solely for the purpose of influencing an election, but if it's something that operates on an ongoing basis as a business or as an entity outside of an election period, that's not going to be captured in it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

If there is no further discussion on this, are we ready to vote?

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

There are only 18 more amendments to this clause, so we'll keep going.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

We're flying.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

We're on amendment CPC-88.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

Chair, we're going to withdraw this amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

Are you not bringing amendment CPC-88 forward?

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

We'll instead move the one that was added.

[The Chair, Liberal, Larry Bagnell]

We have a new amendment from the Conservative Party. It's reference number 10008250, presented by Mr. Nater.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

This is just banning foreign influence at all times.

[Stephanie Kusie]

It prohibits foreign third party activity at all times.