When the members are all present, such as immediately after QP, we don't have bells at all, but we have a convention of 30-minute bells for a lot of times when we actually could be prepared to get there early.
We certainly need 30 minutes. There was one vote, the surprise Monday vote that led to the crisis around motion 6 last spring. I was at the Lyme disease conference that was being held at the former offices of the City of Ottawa, and it was just by the sheerest luck that I was able to run fast enough, grab a cab fast enough, and get back here in time for the vote fast enough. I got back here, and it actually made some members of the governing Liberal Party think that, because I'd managed to get back for the vote, I must have had a heads-up from the Conservatives and the NDP about their plan. I actually had no heads-up. I just was lucky as anything to find a cab. So the 30-minute bells have their place, but not always.
Anyway, I'm sorry about the interruption, again. I think standing in our place is an important tradition in Canada, and I wouldn't want someone else to decide, as you suggested, Mr. Chair, when it's an important matter and when it's not. Some people's routine may be somebody else's conscience.