Evidence of meeting #15 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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1:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Is everyone okay to move on to the second part of that section, on Wales? Okay, it looks like everyone is nodding their heads. Are there any issues with the overview on Wales?
Go ahead, Mr. Brassard.
1:55 p.m.
Conservative
John Brassard Conservative Barrie—Innisfil, ON
I beat him. I thought Mr. Duncan was going to jump in here.
1:55 p.m.
Conservative
John Brassard Conservative Barrie—Innisfil, ON
Good.
I'll just note as well, Madam Chair, that I think there needs to be a footnote acknowledging that the National Assembly for Wales was renamed, effective May 6, to “Welsh Parliament”.
1:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
It was effective May 6? Okay.
Andre, did you get that? It's the Welsh Parliament.
1:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Okay. We're good with the overview.
On “Changes to Standing Orders” for Wales, I'm getting some thumbs up for that section.
Can you include “Challenges” in there as well, since it's so short? It's “Changes to Standing Orders” and then the “Challenges” section, which is just a sentence or two sentences. Is everyone good with that? Okay.
Seeing as it's 1:59, is everyone okay with the “Challenges” section, so that the whole Wales section is good to go? Okay.
I think this might be a good stopping point, then. I was thinking of carrying on. The eager part of me wanted to carry on, but I think it actually makes sense to create the breaking point here. We'll carry on from here in our next meeting.
I don't anticipate this portion of it to take much longer, but I do want to remind everybody that we would like to have the recommendations in for tomorrow. Now that you can see the whole report, it may be even easier, as you were thinking about recommendations this week. If you can have those ready for tomorrow and submit those to us, we can see where they fit into a section, and then we can have a discussion on that at the next meeting. We can have all of that well prepared for you at the next meeting.
Go ahead, Christine.
2 p.m.
Bloc
Christine Normandin Bloc Saint-Jean, QC
What is the deadline if someone wanted to submit a supplementary report? We had planned to perhaps do this for the French portion of the translation. It is quite specific to the Bloc Québécois.
What is the deadline? How does one proceed and how does one go about translating the documents or reports?
2 p.m.
The Clerk
I have inquired about any dissenting or supplementary opinions. They must be filed by the end of the day on May 13 at the latest, so that we can table the report on the clerk's desk by May 15.
There are certain terms and conditions for producing such opinions. Members are responsible for providing them to me in both official languages. The task of having them translated is yours. Opinions may not exceed 10 pages or be longer than the report itself. This report will be more than 10 pages long, so the maximum length of opinions is 10 pages and they must be tabled in both official languages by 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, May 13.
2 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Does everyone have that? The deadline for dissenting opinions or supplementary opinions is 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, May 13.
If there are supplementary opinions, the rest of the committee may want them in the main report, so I'd also advise speaking to other members from other parties. I know everyone has a good working relationship, so if you can speak to one another offline as well, I would highly recommend it, because the more we have in our report that is a consensus, I think the better. Of course everyone is free to have a supplementary or dissenting opinion.
Could recommendations be in for tomorrow? Please just email them.
Are there any other comments?
2 p.m.
Conservative
Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB
Madam Chair, we're suggesting it be by the end of the day tomorrow.
2 p.m.
Conservative
2 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Justin, Andre, is that okay? Is the end of day tomorrow good? It is. Okay.
2 p.m.
Conservative
Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB
With regard to the dissenting report, it has to be presented on May 15. Is that correct?
2 p.m.
The Clerk
Mr. Richards, the full report, including any supplementary or dissenting opinions, has to be deposited with the office of the Clerk by May 15. Therefore, given the production time that would be required, we would need dissenting opinions or supplementary opinions no later than 5:00 p.m. on May 13, which is the Wednesday two days before.
2 p.m.
Conservative
Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB
I would assume that a lot of that is cut and paste. I don't imagine that will be a huge problem, but if it ends up that we have to request something like noon or something on May 14, could that still be accommodated? I don't even know if we'll have a dissenting opinion or how long it would be or any of that. I don't expect it would be an issue with what you're asking for, but I would like to ask for maybe noon on May 14 if it were absolutely necessary. We would obviously do everything we could to have it before that.
2 p.m.
The Clerk
I've talked to the Parliamentary Publications team and they've indicated to me that they would need a certain amount of time. The suggestion they had in terms of their deadline was end of day on the 13th.
I can definitely go back to see if there is some leeway, but I think that if we could keep the deadline as May 13 at 5:00 p.m. as a good working rule, it would be consistent with the technical advice I got back from the publishing team.
2:05 p.m.
Conservative
Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB
Perhaps you could go back and just double-check that. I'm comfortable that it should be okay. I know that sometimes it does take some time, and I want to make sure we leave the maximum amount of time in case it is needed, so maybe you could go back to check. However, we will obviously do everything we can to make sure it's ready by the end of the day on the 13th if it is required.
2:05 p.m.
The Clerk
I can endeavour to do that.
2:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Okay.
As it stands right now, on Wednesday by the end of the business day at 5:00 p.m., we would need the dissenting and supplementary opinions, and Justin will ask about the recommendations.
Don't forget to have recommendations in tomorrow, and please be ready for our next meeting on May 12. That's when we will go through the rest of the report and adopt the main section of the report, and then of course we can add dissenting and supplementary opinions of no more than 10 pages.
Thank you for all your input and feedback. I think we're going to have a great report by the end of this process.
Goodbye. The meeting is adjourned.
