We would agree with what Matthew Ball has stated. There's a lot of attention paid right now to trying to increase capacity.
AIIC Canada conducted a survey in July and August and we have identified that indeed there have been people leaving the profession because of difficult conditions. We believe it's been very difficult. Even if all stakeholders are working to help increase capacity, there are big challenges. We only have two master's programs in Canada. We believe that in a bilingual country such as ours, there needs to be a much bigger investment to be able to train interpreters.