Yes, but they're not a member. They don't get to raise their hand to speak. If we'd like to deal with some Standing Order changes or some committee business changes, I'd be happy to deal with those.
I would like to now welcome our witnesses for today's meeting. We have Lucia Kovacikova, assistant professor of political science, and Professor Lori Turnbull, faculty of management at—I am so sorry, but it just seems so weird to say—Dalhousie University.
Welcome. You each have five minutes to make your opening statement.
Since you're in the room, Professor Turnbull, we'll start with you.
