China has what they call their “five poisons”. One is the independence of Taiwan. One is the group Falun Gong. One is Xinjiang. One is Hong Kong. One, I think, may just be human rights, or the way the west interprets human rights. On a scale, Taiwan is at the top.
When China pursues those goals overseas, that's foreign interference. I've told them repeatedly, personally, that we have a poison as well, and that is foreign interference. It takes place on our territory. It's our turf. We get to call the shots. That's what the clash is. Their goal is to preserve the Communist Party of China and the territorial integrity of China. They see those five poisons as threatening that.
They overreach, in our very strong view, when they pursue their five poisons agenda in other countries, including Canada. That's where we clash on what is foreign interference.