Yes, absolutely. I mean, these are big questions, the questions of how we reach equality. Is it a question of form or is it a question of substance? I'm of the view that we have the law, and the law should be impartial, but the law lands in a society in which we have inequities.
For example, we can think of the Luamba case, which just went to the Supreme Court, around an officially neutral law of being able to stop cars without suspicion, and the impact that has disproportionately on certain populations. To me, the key part is making sure that any approach is determined by data and not by partisanship. For example—