It's similar to what Ms. Brière was saying. The Chinese and the Russians have enormous resources that they're dedicating to this kind of work. The United Front Work Department of the Chinese Communist Party is a couple of times the size of the entire Chinese foreign ministry. They're dedicating a terrific amount of effort to this.
I feel that they will always find some way to do an end run around us or find some kind of loophole that will allow them to exert influence where they feel it should be exerted. Certainly, this particular scheme about getting a lot of people to donate and then get the refund is one. Other methods of funding also can arise. I just think that they will do more and more.
As I said in my opening statement, they are expanding their resources to their Canadian operation significantly. AI and other computer-enhanced methods allow them to do it much better. This includes the very serious problem of disinformation, particularly within the community that get their information in the Chinese language.