Evidence of meeting #123 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was discussion.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Vice-Chair  Mr. John Barlow (Foothills, CPC)
Kerry Diotte  Edmonton Griesbach, CPC
James Van Raalte  Director General, Accessibility Secretariat, Department of Employment and Social Development
Gordie Hogg  South Surrey—White Rock, Lib.
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Stephanie Feldman

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

It's very good for you. We have to support our dairy farmers.

(On clause 18)

On clause 18, if LIB-10 is adopted—just so we're clear on this—then Green Party 4, CPC-14, and NDP-4 cannot be moved due to conflict. I want to make sure that's clear before we move to LIB-10.

Are there any comments on LIB-10?

Mr. Morrissey, it's your amendment.

10:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Mr. Chair, this is a consequential change being made that reflects the changes made in LIB-4 and LIB-9, removing the word “progressive”.

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

Is there any further discussion on LIB-10?

10:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

If this passes, this will cancel out the next three consecutive—?

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

Yes.

10:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Since there's a difference, are we able to debate?

There's obviously no timeline in their amendment, and we have timelines here. Is that able to be—

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

If it is adopted, I would suggest that you have that discussion to try to amend LIB-10 now, because I am guessing that LIB-10 will pass. I would suggest you try to amend LIB-10 with some of the concerns you may have.

10:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

I would like to suggest making an amendment.

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

Go ahead, Ms. May.

10:05 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

The committee's motion puts you in a rather difficult position. I haven't raised it earlier tonight because I know you had to go very quickly, but the motion that compels me to be here also guarantees me an opportunity to speak to each of my amendments, which are deemed to have been tabled, whether or not they conflict with another member's amendments.

If we're on this point that Rosemarie has raised, I have a right to speak to my motion under the terms of that motion. I haven't asserted it before tonight, because it's a long night.

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

Thank you, Ms. May.

Yes, Ms. Falk?

10:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

If I suggest an amendment, it needs unanimous consent, right?

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

No, because we are on this amendment and you are not the mover.

10:05 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

You just move an amendment to the amendment.

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

You can try to amend LIB-10.

10:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

I suggest amending an amendment.

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

It is a subamendment.

10:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

The subamendment would be “tribute to the realization of a Canada within 10 years after the day on which this section comes into force of a Canada without”.

10:05 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

Does everybody understand the subamendment?

Is there any further discussion on the subamendment?

Go ahead, Mr. Diotte.

10:10 p.m.

Edmonton Griesbach, CPC

Kerry Diotte

I would like to make that amendment so that Bill C-81 in clause 18 be amended by—

10:10 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

Mr. Diotte, we can only have one amendment at a time. There are some amendments on the table.

10:10 p.m.

Edmonton Griesbach, CPC

Kerry Diotte

Okay.

Yes, it was the wrong amendment that she—

10:10 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

How about we go to Ms. Falk?

10:10 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Can I withdraw it?

10:10 p.m.

The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow

We'll withdraw that subamendment.

Give that another go, on what you're trying to achieve here.