Evidence of meeting #25 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.
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Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Yes. Am I on the speakers list? Is it my turn to speak?
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
I think it's a good motion, but in a practical sense we could include this within the mandate of what we are discussing on poverty. I think that's the point that Pierre is making. As we hear about the importance of housing, will a carbon tax increase the cost of housing? Absolutely. How about heating those homes? Where they are on a fixed income, it will increase that. It will increase transportation costs for a person, but we also heard that the public transportation costs will increase. The costs of food, drugs, meds, and education will increase dramatically too.
If we could have that as part of this study and increase our mandate—a question through you to Pierre—would you accept that, so we don't have to have a separate study? It would be part of this study.
Liberal
Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
I have a point of order, Chair.
Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
As a point of order, Chair, that would mean this meeting is adjourned, if that's where Mr. Ruimy is going, and I thought you wanted to hear the witnesses today.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
No, we're talking about the debate on this motion. I believe we can, but we would have to deal with his motion first, because it supersedes—
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
That's a debatable motion, though. This motion is debatable.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
I'm trying to think of the quickest way to get to where we need to get to on this, and as I said, I want to—
Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
We just want to vote on it, so—
Liberal
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
Okay. I think they're done. I'm not sure that we need to do that. We're prepared to vote on this particular....
Now I just question.... Normally, this would be considered committee business, and we would be doing this in camera. Is this an issue? No? Okay, I just want to make sure I'm not breaking any rules there.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
Mr. Chair, I believe I can.... I'm not attempting to disrupt the discussion here—
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
—but I do believe this matter should be discussed in public and not in camera.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
I guess what I'm suggesting is a compromise. Maybe we could return to the subject at another time, as long as there's agreement that we could discuss it out in the open. I would put the matter to—
Liberal
Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB
The motion shouldn't be debatable now, though. Can we just not call a vote?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
I think this was sort of the attempt. I think this is what was asked of us, and I think that's what we should do at this point. That's fair. Can we move to vote, or must we have Mr. Ruimy pull the motion?
