Evidence of meeting #10 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was affordable.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Romy Bowers  Senior Vice-President, Client Solutions, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Catherine Adam  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Service Policy Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Wilson
Lori MacDonald  Senior Associate Deputy Minister, Employment and Social Development and Chief Operating Officer for Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development
Cliff C. Groen  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch, Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development
Janet Goulding  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Income Security and Social Development Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Mark Perlman  Chief Financial Officer and Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Employment and Social Development

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

It's the same project that's under way in Vancouver, B.C. In fact, B.C. is the place that started modular housing and has been using the local workforce to both build the modules and assemble them on sites when the projects are approved.

8:10 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Client Solutions, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Romy Bowers

Just as one point of clarification with respect to the rapid housing, we're just in the process of dispensing funds. The construction has not yet begun. We expect that there will be similar types of projects to those found in Vancouver and Toronto.

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

You don't build them on another continent, ship them across to Canada, put them on a train and take them to a local community. They're assembled more or less close to the site before they're built finally. That's the model of modular housing that has been embraced. It has to be quick. You can't wait six months for delivery.

8:10 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Client Solutions, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Romy Bowers

That's correct. There's a 12-month limit for the construction.

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

Okay. In terms of—

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Thank you, Mr. Vaughan and Ms. Bowers.

Ms. Chabot, you have two and a half minutes.

8:10 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'm going to ask a question about the student loans mentioned in the fall economic statement. $329.4 million was announced to eliminate interest on Canada student loans and Canada apprentice loans for fiscal 2021-22.

Since these programs do not apply to Quebec students, can you give us the details about compensation for Quebec students further to this announcement?

8:10 p.m.

Senior Associate Deputy Minister, Employment and Social Development and Chief Operating Officer for Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development

Lori MacDonald

I'll ask my colleague Mr. Perlman if he has any details on that.

8:10 p.m.

Chief Financial Officer and Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Employment and Social Development

Mark Perlman

I apologize that I don't have any details on that, but I'm sure we can do a follow-up for you.

8:10 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

Thank you. I am mainly interested in how Quebec students will be compensated for this program.

My other question I have already asked. You are aware that the employment insurance claims of people who received money during their parental leave are caught up in an administrative maze. All these claims are frozen, sometimes for months, because of a lack of clear policy. That's what Service Canada agents are telling claimants. They are telling them to call their members of Parliament. We feel it's unacceptable.

Are you working with the department responsible to get clear instructions for unblocking claims so that people can receive assistance?

8:10 p.m.

Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch, Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development

Cliff C. Groen

Thank you very much for your question.

Priority processing of all claims is very important to us. That's why we introduced measures to ensure the transition from CERB to EI. We took action to ensure that processing was done in a short period of time.

As a result, we have a number of services paid within 28 days of the application date. Under normal circumstances, we achieve this goal 80% of the time. Since the transition to EI, we have been reaching that goal 95% of the time. That's a significant improvement.

8:10 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

Why are claims being blocked, especially for those who have received Quebec parental insurance plan or maternity benefits?

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

You don't have much time left, Ms. Chabot.

I will allow a brief answer.

8:10 p.m.

Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch, Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development

Cliff C. Groen

We're aware that delays have occurred with some benefit claims, particularly for parental and maternity leave.

This is due to the difference between the maternity leave program and eligibility for certain items. Over the past few weeks, we have issued new instructions to our agents. We are processing all applications that have experienced these delays on a priority basis.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Thank you, Mr. Groen.

We have Ms. Gazan, please, for two and half minutes.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Thank you so much, Chair.

My question actually is for Madam Bowers.

In the last meeting where the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development appeared, not this meeting but the one prior, I actually broke down some of the dollar amounts for the distinctions-based indigenous housing strategy.

Would your department be able to provide this committee with the dollar amount per capita that each of the distinctions-based indigenous housing strategies provide each year?

8:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Client Solutions, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Romy Bowers

We'll take that question away and will provide that information to you.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Okay. Thank you.

I also asked department officials during the last meeting how many low-barrier, 24-7 safe spaces have been newly funded since the report was released on murdered and missing indigenous women, girls and two-spirits a year and a half ago. We know that call to justice 4.7 calls on the government to fund such spaces as life-saving measures.

Is your department able to provide that number?

8:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Client Solutions, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Romy Bowers

Yes, we are able to provide that number to you.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Okay.

Don't you have that number available here today?

8:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Client Solutions, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Romy Bowers

In response to the report on murdered and missing indigenous women, there was a funding announcement made in May 2020. The funding was for $44.8 million over five years to construct 10 new shelters, on reserve, across the country. This would be under the CMHC's shelter enhancement program.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I'm speaking not just about a shelter, sorry. It's a 24-7, low-barrier safe space, which is different from shelters, solely for women who are experiencing domestic violence, for example. I'm wondering about that number.

8:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Client Solutions, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Romy Bowers

Unfortunately, I don't have that level of specificity, so again, unfortunately, I have to take that question back and we'll provide that information to you.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Yes, I asked that—

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Thank you, Ms. Bowers.

Thank you, Ms. Gazan.