Human Resources Committee on Jan. 31st, 2022

[Soraya Martinez Ferrada, Liberal, Hochelaga, QC]

Could the committee be given the figures just mentioned regarding the situation before the pandemic and after the pandemic? Could we have a comparison to understand why the current situation is more difficult than before the pandemic? Could we have real numbers to go by, rather than relying on the ones reported by the media?

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Thank you, Madame Martinez Ferrada.

That concludes the first part of the—

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Yes.

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

First of all, thank you so much to all of the witnesses who are here today and—

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Mrs. Kusie, you do not have the floor.

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

I thought you recognized me when you said yes. Pardon me.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

No. I'm sorry. We concluded this part of the meeting—

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

You did say yes, Mr. Chair, so I do believe when you said yes, that was recognizing me in having the floor. You said yes. What was the yes an indicator to, Mr. Chair?

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

No, I did not indicate that you had the floor, Mrs. Kusie.

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

Can we go back and check, Madam Clerk, what the yes was an indicator to? I believe the yes was an indication that I had the floor. I don't understand. I said something and you said yes, so to me that was an indication that I had the floor.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

I'm sorry, no, Mrs. Kusie. I did not. We were concluding the meeting, and I indicated that I was moving to thank the witnesses. I was clear on who we would have for the two last lines of questioning, so I want to proceed with—

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

Well, then may I have the floor after you conclude thanking the witnesses?

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

No. We're concluding the—

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

You did say yes. Why can't I have the floor after we thank the witnesses?

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Mrs. Kusie, could we be respectful here to the proceedings? I was very clear on how we were going to proceed. We know the rules. I identified the last two questioners and the time they had. I thanked Madame Martinez Ferrada and indicated that was concluded, and I was moving to thank the witnesses for their time coming in and appearing and for their thoughtful evidence before the committee.

We will now move to suspend while we move to the second part for—

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

Mr. Chair, I have something to say before we conclude, please.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Mrs. Kusie, do you have a motion?

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

No, I do not have a motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Mrs. Kusie, you do not have the floor.

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

Okay, I do have a motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

What's the motion?

[Stephanie Kusie, Conservative, Calgary Midnapore, AB]

I was hoping to move that we could conduct the second part of our meeting in public. Everyone has worked very hard on presenting their motions regarding studies to the committee. It's clear that all parties have put considerable time and thought into this, so I was just hoping that our constituents and Canadians could see the hard work we've put into preparing these motions and the clearness and transparency with which we're going to have the discussion to determine the studies that we will be undertaking.

That was my motion, to move to have the second part of our meeting in public, please.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

The committee members have heard the motion. I will put it to a recorded vote. I would ask the clerk to confirm the motion that was put forward by—

[Bonita Zarrillo, NDP, Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC]

I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, but I had my hand raised before you talked about calling the vote. I want some clarification.