Evidence of meeting #5 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lori MacDonald  Senior Associate Deputy Minister, Employment and Social Development and Chief Operating Officer for Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Danielle Widmer
Cliff C. Groen  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch, Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development
Peter Littlefield  Chief Information Officer, Innovation, Information & Technology Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Mary Crescenzi  Assistant Deputy Minister, Integrity Services Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

My hand is now lowered, sir.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Okay.

Madame Chabot, you had your hand raised.

12:40 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

Yes, Mr. Chair.

I had asked Ms. Kusie a question.

As I understand it, since I made this motion, I am the mover of the motion. My motion did not include a time limit. Ms. Kusie's intention is to impose a deadline for ministers to appear on their mandate letters as a matter of priority, that is to say at the next meetings. Does Ms. Kusie intend to amend the motion to that effect?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Yes.

12:40 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

If not, I will propose the amendment myself. It was just a question I was asking Ms. Kusie, who moved my motion first...

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Madam Clerk, we're still on Madame Chabot's motion, and I do not believe—

12:40 p.m.

The Clerk

I would like to clarify.

Mrs. Kusie, are you moving an amendment to the motion of Madame Chabot?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Yes, I am.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Okay, because Madame Chabot cannot amend her motion.

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Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

I'm moving to amend Madame Chabot's motion to one hour with each minister over the next two meetings.

Is that adequate?

12:40 p.m.

The Clerk

It's in the motion already.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Okay. That's what I don't understand.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

It's your amendment, Mrs. Kusie.

Madam Clerk, we have the amendment by Mrs. Kusie.

12:40 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, may we have a moment to speak?

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Sure.

Committee, I'm going to suspend for two minutes while I consult with the clerk so that everybody is clear on the motion and the amendment.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

We'll resume.

Just so that everybody is clear, I will ask the clerk to explain the discussion between Mrs. Kusie...on Madame Chabot's motion, and why the item she wanted was already included in the main motion.

Madam Clerk, could you explain?

12:45 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, Mrs. Kusie was looking at the original motion. In the motion, it already explains that they're looking for the ministers to appear for one hour each before the committee. It is already included in the original motion as moved by Madame Chabot.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Therefore, the amendment would not be in order.

12:45 p.m.

The Clerk

You are correct, Mr. Chair.

Next on the speaking list right now is Ms. Zarrillo.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Ms. Zarrillo, go ahead.

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NDP

Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I was going to speak on it, but I'm going to wait to hear exactly what's been decided on the amendment. I haven't seen it at all. I've only heard it on the floor. I haven't seen the amendment myself.

12:45 p.m.

The Clerk

Mrs. Kusie would like to speak next.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Madam Clerk, could you explain? It's my understanding that there's no amendment on the floor.

12:45 p.m.

The Clerk

No, there is no amendment.

Mrs. Kusie will be taking the floor. Madame Chabot has her hand raised, but Mrs. Kusie, in the room, is also looking to speak. Her name is on the speaking list as well.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Who's first in the order, Madame Chabot or Madame Kusie?