Evidence of meeting #5 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lori MacDonald  Senior Associate Deputy Minister, Employment and Social Development and Chief Operating Officer for Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Danielle Widmer
Cliff C. Groen  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Benefits and Integrated Services Branch, Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development
Peter Littlefield  Chief Information Officer, Innovation, Information & Technology Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Mary Crescenzi  Assistant Deputy Minister, Integrity Services Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

12:20 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Morrissey, Ms. Zarrillo has her hand raised.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Okay.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

I wonder if I could request a break. If we could get some information on how people will be recognized in the room versus online, and how we will coordinate that for the rest of this meeting, that would be appreciated.

I'd like to take a break for two minutes just to get that information.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Okay.

I will suspend for a few minutes while I consult with the clerk.

Thank you.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Thank you, committee members.

We are now in the second hour and we are in public. We're resuming committee business in public.

I will ask the clerk to advise me on who has their hand up.

12:25 p.m.

The Clerk

Mrs. Kusie has her hand raised, Mr. Chair.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Mrs. Kusie, go ahead.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I just want to applaud the committee for making the decision to go in public to have this discussion. I just think it's so very important that our constituents and all Canadians see that we have the issues facing this nation first-hand at mind and that we are here ready to take those interests to heart and to plan our studies.

Mr. Chair, certainly the Conservatives submitted many good motions, as did many others of this team. I see so many fantastic ideas here. I'm very excited about all of them, frankly. It will be very difficult for this group to prioritize how we will study and what we will do, but I think a good tone to start off our studies and to start off the conversations we're going to have would be Madame Chabot's motion.

Ms. Chabot's motion is as follows:

That the committee invite the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development, the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and the Inclusion of Persons with Disabilities, the Minister of Labour and the Minister of Seniors to appear for one hour each before the committee to explain their mandate lettres.

I think it will be an excellent opportunity to hear about the priorities of the ministers. We will also have an opportunity to talk to the ministers about their priorities for this session, that is, between now and the spring—we will obviously be here until the end of June. That would be a good start for the committee. After that, we can look at all the other motions.

As I said, there are a number of good motions on the table, but I think it would be good to start off with a motion on the presence of ministers at the committee.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Is there any discussion on the motion?

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Mr. Chair, can I hear the motion again? Was there a motion actually put on the floor?

12:25 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

Mr. Chair, I had raised my hand.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Soraya Martinez Ferrada Liberal Hochelaga, QC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

We were dealing with Mrs. Kusie's motion.

Mrs. Kusie, please repeat your motion.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Soraya Martinez Ferrada Liberal Hochelaga, QC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair.

12:25 p.m.

The Clerk

There's a point of order, Mr. Chair, from Ms. Martinez Ferrada.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Go ahead on a point of order.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Soraya Martinez Ferrada Liberal Hochelaga, QC

Mr. Chair, given that today's meeting is in a hybrid format—

12:25 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

I raised my hand first, Mr. Chair.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Soraya Martinez Ferrada Liberal Hochelaga, QC

Ms. Chabot, I raised the point of order in an effort to help you.

12:25 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

All right; I'm sorry.

Sometimes there are delays in interpretation.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Soraya Martinez Ferrada Liberal Hochelaga, QC

That is part of my point of order, Ms. Chabot.

Mr. Chair, it would be really interesting to check with the clerk on how to help the committee members function properly even though we're in a hybrid format. Since the chair is attending the meeting virtually, he doesn't see what's going on in the room, and vice versa. Perhaps the clerk could help the chair keep track of the speaking order of members. Since the clerk is in the room, she could help the chair, so that there is better cohesion in terms of the speaking order of members.

I would like to raise another point. I think I am the only French speaker in the room. It is extremely difficult for me to hear the interpretation, because I hear the English-speaking members in the room. If all my colleagues used earpieces and the sound in the room was turned down, it would help me hear the interpretation well.

For the benefit of my colleagues who are attending the meeting virtually as well as my own, it would be helpful if the clerk could assist the chair in terms of the speaking order of members, which would help facilitate the discussions. We are here to consider and discuss the motions at hand.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Ruff Conservative Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

I wanted to reiterate the same issue that the previous member just indicated. We're getting the translation of both, so if we could fix that, it would make it a lot easier to understand.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

I agree. Thanks for raising that.

Are we getting that clarified, Madam Clerk?

12:30 p.m.

The Clerk

I will speak to the services right now about that matter.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey

Let's suspend for two minutes while we're clarifying the issue that was identified.