Evidence of meeting #29 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Raymond Guénette  Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada
Wayne Garnons-Williams  Acting Registrar, Registry Branch, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada
John Frecker  President, Legistec Inc.
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. William Farrell
Jennifer Bird  Committee Researcher

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Acting Registrar, Registry Branch, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Wayne Garnons-Williams

I again don't think we're in a position to comment on the RAD provisions. I think we have to limit our testimony to Federal Court procedures.

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Each counsel in a Federal Court appeal is entitled to make submissions based on the record, are they not?

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Acting Registrar, Registry Branch, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Do you agree that's similar to how the RAD provisions apply--submissions can be made by counsel on the record?

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Acting Registrar, Registry Branch, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you.

Mr. Telegdi.

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Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

I have a couple of quick questions. I wonder if you could provide us with information on how many cases the Federal Court handles in the humanitarian and compassionate process and the pre-removal risk assessment process. Perhaps you could get that information to us when you're getting the other information.

What is the salary range of a Federal Court judge?

9:40 a.m.

Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Raymond Guénette

I believe at the moment it's $240,000 a year.

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Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

That's at least double what we pay somebody on the refugee board.

Thank you very much.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thank you.

Madame Faille.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

As there is no appeals section, you said earlier that there is no case law in this respect. When the Federal Court hands down a ruling, do you hear of cases of individuals from the same family where some applications were approved, and others denied, though circumstances were very similar? How would a Federal Court judge react to such a situation?

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Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Raymond Guénette

I am sorry, but I cannot answer. I have no idea.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Okay.

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Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Raymond Guénette

That is a question—

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

You cannot answer that question.

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Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Raymond Guénette

It would be a very specific case, and I would have to see if there is any case law. I really have no idea as to whether or not there is any.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

How can we now make sure that all refugee rulings are uniform? Earlier, you said that decisions subject to judicial review are not revised. In addition, when decisions under judicial review are denied, do you inform the people concerned and provide them with the details of the refused application?

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Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Raymond Guénette

Indeed, in addition, they receive a copy of the judge's order through registered mail.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Do you provide them with a detailed report on the grounds of the refusal?

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Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Raymond Guénette

I do not believe that the judge provides the grounds of refusal for each decision. Did I understand your question properly?

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Acting Registrar, Registry Branch, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Wayne Garnons-Williams

Yes. In the majority of cases, the decisions do not include extensive explanations. Normally, there is another process for the judicial review.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

What you do to ensure the quality of the decisions made in the judicial review? You seem to be driven by fear of creating a backlog. What do you do to make sure that the decisions are fair?

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Acting Chief Administrator, Office of the Chief Adminsitrator, Courts Administration Service, Federal Court of Canada

Raymond Guénette

The judges are the ones who make the decisions. They have experience in the field. It is not the staff's role to review the judges' decisions.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

What would allow for a certain degree of control over the quality of these decisions?