Evidence of meeting #61 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was credentials.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Richard Fadden  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order. Since it's past 5:30, and this meeting was supposed to go to 5:30, I would say that we come back on Thursday and vote on the estimates.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Thursday—The estimates are supposed to be back in the House.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

The next meeting, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Mr. Chair, why don't we freeze the clock at 5:30?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Okay, I recommend that we freeze the clock at 5:30. We have time.

Shall vote 1, less the amount of $103,398 granted in interim supply, carry?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Chair, there again, it is 5:30. The bells are ringing for us to go to the House to vote.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Shall vote 1 carry?

CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION Department Vote 1—Operating expenditures..........$413,593,000

(Vote 1 agreed to)

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

No, you can't have a vote, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

You don't have quorum.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Shall vote 5, less the amount of—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Mr. Chair, the committee meeting expired before—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

The clerk informs me I can keep going.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

No, you can't.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Not unless you have unanimous consent from the committee. You don't have unanimous consent.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Shall vote 5, less the amount of $305 million granted in interim supply, carry?

CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION Department Vote 5—Grants and contributions..........$732,224,000

(Vote 5 agreed to)

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Chair, a point of order. I'd like to challenge the chair. I'd like to challenge the chair.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

You're going to lose the challenge, Jimmy.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Shall vote 10, less the amount of $25,046,500 granted in interim supply, carry?

CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada Vote 10—Program expenditures..........$100,186,000

(Vote 10 agreed to)

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Chair, on a point of order. Mr. Chair, on a point of order.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Shall the chair report the main estimates to the House?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Chair, on a point of order.

5:30 p.m.

An hon. member

Let's just vote against it.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

I have a point of order. Mr. Chair, it's 5:30 and the bells are ringing. You have a challenge to your ruling. You have a challenge to your ruling, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

No, you cannot challenge the—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Yes, I can.