Citizenship and Immigration Committee on April 28th, 2008

Evidence of meeting #37 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was consultants.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Immigration Consultants

Committee Business

Members speaking

Jim Karygiannis

Colleen Beaumier

Maurizio Bevilacqua

Before the committee

Les Linklater Director General, Immigration Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

François Guilbault Senior General Counsel, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Steve Sloan Director, Criminal Investigations Division, Enforcement Branch, Canada Border Services Agency

Superintendent Mike Cabana Chief Superintendent, Director General, Border Integrity, Federal and International Operations, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Denis Meunier Director General, Enforcement and Disclosures Directorate, Compliance Programs Branch, Canada Revenue Agency

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Does everybody understand that?

I call the question on the amendment.

(Amendment negatived)

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

The next one was an amendment from Mr. Siksay.

What was your amendment, Mr. Siksay?

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

My amendment was that Friday, May 9, be changed to Friday, May 16.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Okay, it is to change the date of May 9 to May 16.

I call the question.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Could I have a recorded vote, Mr. Chair, and specifically spell it out?

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

The amendment is to go from May 9 to May 16.

The Department of Finance, to make it clear, has asked for Friday, May 9. I don't know what the significance of that might be. It was unanimous by the finance committee.

Mr. Telegdi.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

Mr. Chair, I'd like to make an amendment that the amendment state “preliminary”. I want “preliminary” on May 16 because this committee will continue to study the matter, obviously. We might want to travel around the country on that. I think it should be a preliminary on May 16 and then we will have.... So that is the amendment I make.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

I call the question on Mr. Siksay's amendment.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Ask Mr. Siksay if he wants to change it to “preliminary” as a friendly amendment.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Why don't you ask Mr. Khan if he wants to change it. He doesn't want to change it.

Liberal

Colleen Beaumier Liberal Brampton West, ON

We did get a report out of our travel.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

It's an amendment that needs to be dealt with. Call the question on the amendment when there is--

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

You have heard Mr. Siksay's amendment, from the 9th to the 16th. I call the question.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Does Mr. Siksay's amendment say “preliminary”?

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

It does. It is a friendly amendment.

Liberal

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

That “preliminary” be added to Mr. Siksay's amendment.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Did you say “preliminary”?

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

We can do that as a separate amendment, Chair. We can put it in now, if it is acceptable, as a friendly amendment. I'm easy either way.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Is it a friendly amendment?

An hon. member

It's very friendly.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

It's a friendly amendment.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Okay, the amendment is then to add the word “preliminary” and to change May 9 to....

Mr. Carrier.

Bloc

Robert Carrier Bloc Alfred-Pellan, QC

I'm voting. Read the motion. We're ready.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Could we stop for a moment, please? Order, please.

The clerk is making a very good point here that we can't accept--

An hon. member

We accept it.